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Are all the signatory's regular Booths shoppers? Or can they afford to drive to Waitrose or Sainsbury's?It's about time TESCO was updated to include a cafe, clothes, more choice - the current one is outdated and dreary, but due to high Ilkley prices is an oasis for the more humble family household. Marks & Spencer's are about to set up in Ilkley too! Not everyone in Ilkley is against a new TESCO store but we don't set up petitions and demonstrations because it isn't the done thing. There are much more important things to worry about - global warming - what's the point in putting our DVD's on standby when we are all about to light up the whole town with thousands of lightbulbs? Starving children who would love a nice supermarket with clean food. Please do something better with your time.

Totally agree, you [bold]REALLY[/bold] need to do something better with your time TF, like....sign a petition against the iexorable march of that HUGE conglomerate, Tesco!!! Have a really good think about what you're saying, before you sat it next time! Who do you think is one of the [bold]MAJOR[/bold] contributors to the global warming issue in this country??....owner of all those supermarkets, burning millions of watts of electricity and millions of cubic meters of natural gas every single day! Not to mention the amount of packaging produced to wrap the food and other products that they sell, and also the amount of fuel needed to transport all these goods from around the globe to their stores!!? Got you thinking?? You, like many other citizens of our wonderful country are suckered into thinking that Tesco is our friend and that life is much better if Tesco are in town...nothing could be further from the truth, in fact! Take Tesco's recent adverts saying that they support local famers and producers...well I remember not that long ago when it was the likes of Tesco (and others!) that were screwing the local farmers and putting many of them out of business. Some whos businesses had been passed down for many generations, were literally brought to their knees and destroyed all for the sake of cheaper milk and lettuce!!! How short our memories are, eh? For years, Tesco has ridden rough shod over countless thousands of farmers and food producers all over the world, just to get where they are today....basically they DO NOT care who or what they destroy, as long as they get what they what in the end!! It's all spin and propoganda...Tesco is NOT your friend...all they want in the end is your money and nothing else!! If you really do care about global warming and starving children around the world, you would do well to steer clear of shopping at Tesco all together. Waitrose may be slightly more expensive but their ethics are so much more desirable......

Wow. Thanks for food for thought. What about Aldi's or Lidl - can't we have at least one affordable shopping experience in Ilkley? And is Tesco considering a store that's the same size but more cost effective and environmentally friendly? Fair comment and you are obviously passionate about this - I'm really just fed up of having to drive (yes drive - mmm environment...) to Keighley or Shipley even Otley (yes I have considered shopping at Netto) to get value for money. I feel justly disciplined - but I won't sign anything till I know a bit more.

GB calm down.. the wild accusations are typical of desperate voices struggling to form a logical argument. we should have a new store in Ilkley because milk is too cheap.. your arguments need to be real and well founded can the supermarkey build a sustainable business athe proposed site frankly yes, will it employ more people, undoubtably ( is it already the towns largest employer) definately. Do more people visit the Tesco store than any other place of worship, sports facility, community project, educational establishment in the town again definately ... the question is sre any of all those thousands evry dragged screaming in to the place do they ever have there arms twisted, are they not aware of the other retail outlets in and around the town of course they are and yet they still go WHY.. because they believe that shopping there will be easy and relatively good value ( the prices in Ilkley store are exactly as they are in the north of scotland , Manchester, cardiff or elsewhere) you may get 3000 signatures but Tesco has 25000 people walking freely into there store each week becasue they want to...

[quote]the wild accusations are typical of desperate voices struggling to form a logical argument. we should have a new store in Ilkley because milk is too cheap.. your arguments need to be real and well founded [/quote] [bold]Thank You for entering into the debate Mark....in response to your above comment: how many more farmers, producers, suppliers and distributors are needed to go bankrupt and their staff need to be put out of work to sustain a level that you would call 'real' and 'well-founded'??? Try taking a look at the real facts yourself and the absolutely disgusting and deplorable way that our British farmers and producers have and are being treated by the 'big 4' supermarkets!! As far as your comment that milk is 'too cheap', try telling that to the thousands of traditional milkmen and women, who are struggling to make a living, up and down the country!![/bold] [quote]can the supermarkey build a sustainable business athe proposed site frankly yes[/quote] [bold]That was never in question, Mark. What is more important to ask is that the existing store can maintain a sustainable and successful business and the answer to that question is also a resounding... YES!![/bold] [quote]will it employ more people, undoubtably ( is it already the towns largest employer) definately.[/quote] [bold]Just think for a moment....although it may appear that there will be in increase in employment at any new store, you must realise that those people must come from somewhere. Most would of course re-locate from the existing store, however the remainder would more than likely come from outside the area and therefore, economically speaking would be a disaster for the town. More likely to spend their money elsewhere, other than locally me thinks?!? Any remaining shortfall in the staffing would probably be made up from people that have lost their jobs from other stores in the town, due to a larger superstore opening in the first place!![/bold] [quote]Do more people visit the Tesco store than any other place of worship, sports facility, community project, educational establishment in the town again definately ... [/quote] [bold]Please explain the relevance of this statement, as I am at a loss to understand what this lends to an argument for a new store?[/bold] [quote]the question is sre any of all those thousands evry dragged screaming in to the place do they ever have there arms twisted, are they not aware of the other retail outlets in and around the town of course they are and yet they still go WHY.. because they believe that shopping there will be easy and relatively good value[/quote] [bold]Again, you tell us something that is already common knowledge and has no foundation for supporting the building of a much larger store! Relevance??[bold] [quote]( the prices in Ilkley store are exactly as they are in the north of scotland , Manchester, cardiff or elsewhere) [/quote] [bold]Are they?? How do you know that? Do you travel extensively and make frequent visits to Tesco stores in all of these locations in order to make price comparisons?? It would be interesting to see your data analysis Mark! I think you may find prices in Ilkley are 'artificially' high![/bold] Most of your arguments seem weak and unfounded I'm afraid Mark. [bold]All[/bold] of the arguments against the building of a new, larger store at its currently suggested location are entirely logical and with substantiated and evidence-backed foundation. The problem is not with Tesco being part of the town and its economy, it is the fact that as a company, Tesco compete unfairly by using their financial might to dominate to the economy of an area. If it wasn't Ilkley, it would be another town. Tesco [bold]will not[/bold] stop until they have destroyed all competition in their path to ultimate Tescopoly!! Prices may be cheaper at first, but what would then happen to prices when there is no longer a choice other than Tesco?? Err....let me think for a moment.........!!!!! !

would all the people putting their points of view please pick up a dictionary and check their spelling.[bold]bold[/bold]

Did I spell something wrong too? Do Tesco's sell dictionaries or should I go to WH Smiths!!!! (Maybe when the store is bigger it will sell more books! (hee hee)

Well! This is becoming quite heated isn't it? I work at Tesco, and I wish people on BOTH sides of the argument would calm down and think logicaly. Now that Ilkley is to get An M&S, My personal view is that when we have this new store, the people who are so dead set against Tesco can go and shop where things are even more expensive than they are than Booths. An M&S in Ilkley would actualy be good though, for all the people who can afford it(And for all the snobs who hate Tesco so much). Often, we, the staff have to put up with many snobs who think they are so much better than people who work there for so little....Bet most of you wouldn't even get out of bed for £6.25 p hour!!!!

Oh My!! How many times do we have to say it Mr E???!!! [bold]WE DONT HATE TESCO[/bold] and quite frankly, if you are so [bold]personally[/bold] upset with the fact that people appear to 'look down their noses at you' for £6.25 an hour....retire and give someone else a chance!! Oh and I can see no logic in your argument whatsoever...just an attempt to clear something off your chest me thinks!?! For crying out loud....read the evidence!! www.tescopoly.org

Oh dear Mr E you are so obviously agrieved about your wages that you have to knock the rest of Ilkley. If you are not satisfied with your lot tell your employer not us. Ilkley has one of the best Schools in Yorkshire if not the North of England.Tesco if allowed to build would be taking the most valuable piece of employment land left in Ilkley.What could Tesco possibly have to offer these hard working extremely well qualified children. Go on maybe you could tell us Mr E ? That land should be used to create jobs for those kids. To attract hi-tec and development companies into Ilkley. It is a pity that our local Council seem to lack both initiative and imagination.If they can not stand up to this over powering greedy shopkeeper and consider Ilkley foremost then it is time for all of us to give up.

Thank you JDP... there is just such a business seeking to expand in ilkley, it will turnover approx. 900K per week and make approx. 2million pounds a year. It pays its managers locally between 15ooo to 80000 a year, it has the best pension scheme in the private sector, it offers up to 6 weeks annual leave in addition to the bank holidays and it has the most generous profit related share scheme and save as you earn schemes in the country. It does not require its highest paid staff to have the highest qualifications just an open mind, ability to manage and a desire to achieve. That company is Tesco why should they be excluded from your utopia of hi-tec development companies .. after all the original occupiers of the site were businesses reliant on the skills learnt as apprentices and used by engineers in what were 20 and 50 years ago hi-tec development companies that are now no longer applicable, so let the land be used by a business that would benifit the most ( 20000 customers each week) employ the most (350) give most back to its community, buy goods and services locally... and what was the argument against.. there will be too many cars... (your cars not thiers..) they drive down prices and bankrupt farmers (any bankrupt farmers in the yorkshire post this week) and they close local shops of course ( name one business in ilkley that has closed because Hillards opened on the original site, name another that closed because Hillards moved to the present site, name another that closed because Hillards was purchased by Tesco.. cant think of one..)

Mark, If your company is so good why are your employees moaning about £6.20? an hour and for that matter what is your turnover of (disgruntled)employe es per annum ?Whilst we are on the subject what percentage of your employees are on around £6.20p per hour?.

Just a hypothetical question for you what would Ilkley (including those with families, those that don’t have money to spend as and when they want and those that currently work for TESCO) do if TESCO decided to leave town? What would you do with the unemployment rates and who would support those that were left with no jobs at the end…..perhaps the people of Ilkley not affected would donate their money???? I think not. Please if you are going to have this argument will you also consider that many people in Ilkley shop at TESCO due to the prices they offer? The only other choice in Ilkley will be booths and M+S. these are too expensive for many people to do their weekly shopping. no one can argue with the fact that the current TESCO is too small for the amount of people who go there. I have been there many times when selves are empty and stood in the queue while customers in front complain to the staff that choices are limited. If it is the traffic that you want to solve, do something constructive and suggest ways to solve this that can be discussed with the council, any please don’t kid yourself we have traffic problems at the current site. I’m sure the residents on Spring Lane have been affected by Lorries travelling back and forth through town since it opened and no doubt the traffic this weekend will be backing up halfway through town while the majority of Ilkley do their Christmas shopping. The opinion that it will take trade away from the shops we have already is nonsense. If they haven’t already been affected by TESCO, it is very unlikely that they will be by a new store. Please don’t mistake my words. I do not want a large superstore like the one in Bradford…. but a larger store that is more able to cope with demand-yes please. If TESCO move I will be happy, if they don’t then fair enough….what I don’t like is that people only see one side of the problem never both. A new TESCO will solve problems and create new ones-as will happen no matter what company decide to take the site over. And just so there are no misunderstandings my brother and mother work for TESCO (although one not in the Ilkley store) I have family living very close to the new site and will be affected by traffic created (and they are not complaining) and I also live near to the Spooners site myself. Please Please try and see both sides of the argument. Don’t dismiss others opinions just because you don’t agree with it yourselves and try and work with the companies in Ilkley not against them. Don’t let them go too far, but don’t just fight everything they do either because believe it or not they also add something to the community-whether its employment, wealth or tourist facilities. If we are not careful there will be nothing left in Ilkley other than a few overpriced stores, restaurants and bars and the people who were born here will no longer be able to afford to stay. That and only that would be a tragedy!

As a resident of Valley Drive, which is already a " rat "run.The increased traffic will be another hazard.We live opposite The Middle School site. If this is developed there will ba another increase in traffic. Enough is enough!We do not want traffic humps .yellow lines are more parking restrictions.WE do not need a new store,as this will affect town traders ,nd with a Marks and Spencers food outlet to be opened shortly there is sufficient shopping avaiable for a small town.Think againTesco.Forget the idea or move out of town!!!

The thought of the much hated Tesco leaving my home town fills me with joy! They are the grocery bandits of the country and all ither countries which fall prey to their claws. Run the bandits out of our town and don't let them back in!

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